Pennsylvania Grandpa Kills Eight in Murder-Suicide
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What happened
On Friday, shortly before 5 p.m., a 45-year-old grandfather opened fire inside a home on Perry Road in Erie, Pennsylvania, killing eight people and then himself. Erie Police Chief Rick Lorah said the gunman was related to seven of the victims and that the eighth was a friend of a pregnant woman who was among the dead; those killed included a 5-year-old boy and a 1-year-old girl, two young men, additional women inside, and two women shot outside after they arrived and pounded on the door. Investigators recovered video and audio of muffled gunshots from inside just before those two women reached the house; the gunman came out, shot them, and went back inside, where officers later found the remaining victims and the shooter after using a drone and a robot. Police have not publicly named the gunman or stated a motive; Lorah said mental health could be a factor and that investigators would speak with relatives and examine the cellphones of the women killed outside.
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Omitted — what each side leaves out
Unpacked
The two sides do not agree on how many people the grandfather killed. Left-leaning coverage says he killed eight people before shooting himself. Right-leaning coverage reports nine victims and says police called all but a family friend relatives. A reader of one account and a reader of the other leave with a different sense of the massacre's size.
Each side also leads with a different human face. Right-leaning coverage opens on friends who ran toward the gunfire. Left-leaning coverage opens on a grandfather who had not shown signs of violence. The New York Post identifies Lora Roberts and Twila Tanner as the women shot outside. Left-leaning coverage never names them.
What did those women know was happening inside before they reached the door?
Bottom line
The New York Post counts nine victims in the Erie house killings, a number the Guardian never uses and neither paper explains.
The receipts — 6 facts one side's coverage lacks
- The murder-suicide killed nine victims
- The killer's pregnant daughter is identified as Angelina Stone, days from giving birth
- The unborn child was to be named Kyrie
- Officers found the two children on the first floor, two women and two young men in a stairwell, and the shooter on the second floor
- Investigators would examine the cellphones of the women killed outside the home
- Longtime family friends said the shooter had been a good guy who then started going downhill
The Left View
The Guardian treats the killings as a sudden family massacre by a grandfather who had given little outward warning. It foregrounds Julius Windham, father of the slain 1-year-old, who said the man “never seemed distressed or out of the ordinary” and that his everyday smiling “was a front for him,” and longtime acquaintances Nicole and Debra Eller, who called him “a good guy” who then “started going downhill with everything” and asked how he could kill “his grandchildren, his kids.” Coverage centers on a Sunday memorial of candles, flowers, and stuffed animals, Windham’s vow to be strong for his community, and a family friend’s question of how children could be told their grandfather murdered their relatives. Lorah’s suggestion that mental health “could be a factor,” his refusal to describe the interior scene “out of respect for the victims,” Mayor Daria Devlin’s apology to families, and Governor Josh Shapiro’s condolences frame the event as shared community grief. The paper also likens it to a 1982 Wilkes-Barre massacre in which a man killed 13 people, including five of his children.
The Right View
The New York Post frames the same case as a “horrific” murder-suicide by a “twisted” and “cowardly” grandfather and leads with the two women killed outside as friends who “carried out [a] brave final act.” Via online fundraisers it identifies them as Lora Roberts, 37, a mother of five, and Twila Tanner, 51, reporting that they “selflessly rushed” to try to save Roberts’s niece and that Tanner was “bravely trying to help a friend protect her family from a violent and dangerous individual.” It names the gunman’s pregnant daughter as Angelina Stone, “just days away from giving birth” to a child to be named Kyrie, and the slain children as Isiah, 5, and Amari’anna, nearly 2, and notes families seeking donations for funeral costs. It repeats Lorah’s belief that “mental health is at play here,” while emphasizing named victims, the women’s last attempt to intervene, and the shooter’s character.
Our Take (balanced)
The left-leaning account’s strongest argument is that people close to the gunman saw no clear prelude: Windham described daily smiles and no distress, and friends of three decades called him a “good guy” until he “started going downhill,” which supports reading the case as an abrupt collapse inside a family rather than a long-telegraphed public threat. The right-leaning account’s strongest argument is the police-corroborated sequence in which two women arrived after shots were already being fired, pounded on the door to reach family inside, and were killed for it—a sequence fundraisers identify as Roberts and Tanner trying to stop further bloodshed. The central unresolved tension is whether the story’s defining fact is the unreadable ordinary grandfather and unnamed family grief, or the named last-act courage of the two women who ran toward the house and the shooter’s culpability in killing them along with his pregnant daughter and grandchildren.
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